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Monday, January 12, 2009

Neturei Karta protest against Israel on Shabbos 



New York City, January 3, 2009

A mass demonstration including a group of Anti-Zionist Orthodox Jews, in New York City demonstrated to protest the Israeli government's bombings in Gaza. Due to the restrictions of the Jewish Sabbath, the banners were only displayed in one location and held by non-Jews.

From the Neturei Karta website

Comments:
i wonder if they have the din of a rodef and if yes hmmmmmm..

 

So, since the picture clearly shows that the two men with streimels, beards and peyos are holding the signs, then we can assume they are not Jewish.

{As I've said before, while NK may have once been a Jewish organization, it is no longer Orthodox nor Jewish, but a tool of the opponents of Israel.}

 

nebach. willing to be mechalel shaim shamayim, ON shabbas, IN PUBLIC just to get on camera. simply pathetic.
as my grandmother (a holocaust survivor, and of Satmar heritage) said, "they were the first to be sent into the ovens"... how quickly we forget who is friend and who is foe.

 

Did they at least provide cholent, kishka and kugel for the non-Jewish sign holders?

 

what do you do when a NK meets an arab?
You put a grenade in middle.

 

Satmar totally rejects these losers.

 

Don't they have a problem posing for photos on Shabbos or do they consider their cause more important than Shabbos? Where were their other 4 members?

 

TO THE ANONYMOUS WHO SAID THAT HIS GRANDMOTHER SAID THAT THE SATMAR HASSIDIM WERE THE FIRST TO BE SEND TO THE OVENS...
THEY WERE NOT THE FIRST TO BE SEND TO THE OVENS!!!
THEY ARE MORONS AND ANTI - JEWISH
HITLER DID NOT CHOOSE WHICH JEWS TO SEND TO THE OVENS
DOCTORS LAWYERS AND PROFESSIONALS WERE SEND ALONG WITH SATMAR OR OTHER HASSIDIM AS WELL AS ALL MORONS WHO WERE OF JEWISH DESENT...

 

So you are alllowed to specifically ask a non-Jew to do something on shabbat that would be an aveira for a jew to do?

Like carrying and holding up sings?

I learn something new about judaism every day.

Silly me, I thought I leanred in yeshiva that one cannot do that.

 

Which Satmar rejects them? Satmar-Aron Teitelbaum? Satmar-Zalman Teitelbaum? Satmar-Bnai Yoel? Satmar-Independent? Satmar-Chabad?

 

I wonder how much each of those fancy (I'll call them hats, becuase that's what non-Jews call them) cost?

Probably more than I make in a day. Heck, it probably costs more to clean them than I make in a day.

 

"Which Satmar rejects them? Satmar-Aron Teitelbaum? Satmar-Zalman Teitelbaum? Satmar-Bnai Yoel? Satmar-Independent?

All "REAL" Satmar.

I am 62 years old, and I personally heard THE Satmar Rov, Z"L, R. Yoel, say really strong words against these radical NK people. He used the strongest words he would ever use against any Jew to describe them.
He said this to a full shul at a shalosh sudos tish.

He also clearly stated many times, that though we may disagree on halacha regarding the Medina, we must NEVER do anything to help the enemies of Isreal, as that is helping the enemies of the Jews.

Once a politician visited the Rebbe ... trying to get votes, I guess ... at the end of his audience with the Rebbe, the Satmar Rov asked him, "How do you vote on Israel?"

The politician responded, "I do not wish to lie to the Rebbe, I know how the Rebbe is against Israel, but I always vote pro-Israel."

The Satmar Rov responded, "Good!"

After the politician left, they asked the Rebbe, "Why did you say GOOD about his voting pro Israel?"

The Satmar Rov responded, "When we discuss the Medina, we are speaking halacha. When a goy is against Israel, that is anti semitism."

 

I wish people would stop calling them "Naturei Karta" - they are an insult to the memory of the great Ohev Yisroel and true kanoi R' Amram Blau ztz"l.

 

come on now ! ask them (nk) if they belong to the satmar... and they will admit it!!!

 

b t w there is good reason why people always associate them with satmar!!!

 

The Satmar rov ztz"l with all his anti-zionist agenda, was at the same time also a true and total ohev yisroel in the fullest sense of the word. These idiots, have adopted only one miniscule part of his agenda, and only know how to hate. They hate every one who thinks differently than them. It is unfortunate that because they are preaching one very small part of the SR's principles, that they are being associated with satmar.

 

When you click on their website, it's obvious they are getting money and support from sonei yisroel outside their organization. May Hashem show them their true chesbon.

 

"come on now ! ask them (nk) if they belong to the satmar... and they will admit it!!!"

"b t w there is good reason why people always associate them with satmar!!!"

Yes, they will "Admit" it. They have "hijacked" the Satmar name to add legitimacy to their evil actions. They love to quote the Satmar Rebbe, but the Satmar Rebbe would have been horrified by their actions, and spoke out against them many times. They conveniently forget to mention that.

It is easy to claim to be Satmar, as they have the same look, as do many, many other non-Satmar chassidim. But Satmar Rebbe, ZT"L, was NEVER for doing anything hateful, or anything which could put ANY Jew's life at risk.

 

Those of you who believe this is Satmar, I challenge you:

Go to Satmar at Rodney St in Willi, or to Kiryas Joel in Monroe. Tell them you want volunteers to go with you to do things like this. See the responses you get!

 

For all those from Satmar, that claim that the "NK" (KKK) does not have any affiliation: Put your actions where your mouths are, and do something.

All the years, when Satmar wanted to achieve something they succeeded in a big way, whether its a new building, or getting more funds, from the Government for their programs, or when anyone stood in their way.

So why is it, that there is this small group, that gets away with shaming Satmar, into misrepresenting them to the world.

Had they or anyone else for that matter published a site, called Satmar.com or .org, and would have made into some kind of "illicit" site, then all hell would have come loose, Legally or not.


So Satmar Defenders: the time to act is now, let's see if you truly believe that these guys, are against the "Shitah Hokdoshah".

 

BTW, anyone heard any the current Satmar Rabbonim, Dayanim, speak out against these Vermin???

Didn't think so....

 

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